<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>For the benefit of the reader:</div><div><br></div>“That’s not how it works. You’re asking for critical feedback from every team and then you only mention this in an online meeting? And NOBODY considered to send the teams an email so they can respond to that?<div><br></div><div>This makes me wonder: what other important questions have we missed?</div><div><br></div><div>I am not happy with this situation.”</div><div><br></div><div>You’re welcome.</div><div><br></div><div>~Sam</div><div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">Am 2025-05-13 um 18:47 schrieb Sebastian Oort <bas@knutselaar.net>:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">Ah so yes it was mentioned in an online meeting. <div><br></div><div>To put it bluntly and in Dutch: Zo werkt dat niet. Je wilt kritieke input vanuit elk team en dan benoem je dat in een online meeting? En NIEMAND denkt er aan om de teams even een mailtje te sturen waar ze op kunnen reageren?</div><div><br></div><div>Nu vraag ik me af: wat voor kritieke vragen hebben we allemaal nog meer gemist?</div><div><br></div><div>Ben hier echt niet blij mee.</div><div><br></div><div>Bas </div><div><div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>Op 13 mei 2025, om 18:41 heeft Henry Schokkenbroek <henry@ifcat.org> het volgende geschreven:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 13/05/2025 18:36, Sebastian Oort
wrote:<br>
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Speaking for my team: we never got that question. At least, we
can’t remember and can’t find it in our team e-mailbox.
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<div>Bas<br>
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<div>Op 13 mei 2025, om 18:17 heeft Henry Schokkenbroek
via Orga <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:orga@lists.why2025.org"><orga@lists.why2025.org></a> het volgende
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" style="padding-bottom: 1px;"><p>We've asked teams a few months ago if they see any
scaling issues on going to 4000 visitors, but we
also explicitly mentioned that we would postpone
that decision to a later moment.<br>
</p><p>Probably near the end of this month / beginning of
next month, we will come with a final on this (this
is a guestimate by myself).</p><p><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 13/05/2025 17:55,
Wheeze_NL wrote:<br>
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<div>Hi Rob,</div>
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<div>Do I understand that we are not planning on
scaling up? I did not consider this until Bas
mentioned it.<br>
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<div>Regards, Lennart<br>
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2025 om 20:30 schreef Rob Verseijden via Orga
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<div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif"><p>Hi Bas, thank you for asking. :)<br>
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Unfortunately, we have had some delays with
sorting out and checking the addresses,
among other things. Nevertheless, we still
love to find our posters hanging on the
walls of hackerspaces, hopefully still
motivating CfP and other participation.<br>
<br>
In order to reduce costs, we will personally
deliver the materials within The
Netherlands, in some regions in Germany
(South Germany and Berlin) and (part of)
Belgium.<br>
<br>
Still, it would be nice to have all
materials safely packaged so that they
remain neat and tidy, and it’s clear what
has been delivered already and what is not.<br>
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Warm regards, Rob. (team:info)</p><p><br>
</p><p>Bas Oort schreef op 2025-05-12 05:51:</p>
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<div style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:monospace">Hi Rob, i'd like to
ask a question: "why?"<br>
<br>
We've got 500 tickets left to sell,
sending out 200 packages feels "a bit
much" at this stage. <br>
<br>
Unless the plan is to get another batch of
tickets sold (going from 3.5k to 4k), i
see little reason to spend all these
resources (time, money, materials) at this
time.<br>
<br>
If the plan is to add another batch of
tickets, my team (and several other
teams!) really need to know *soon*.<br>
<br>
Bas<br>
(Team Waste)<br>
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11 mei 2025 om 23:25 heeft Rob via Orga
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het volgende geschreven:<br>
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Dear WHY-minded people. :D<br>
<br>
WHY2025 will provide posters and
stickers to around 200 hackerspaces in
the Netherlands, Belgium and Germany. To
achieve this, 200 tubes need to be
labelled and filled with posters, flyers
and stickers.<br>
<br>
This Thursday, 15 May, Team:info is
organising a sweatshop to get this done.<br>
<br>
Drinks and dinner will be provided.<br>
<br>
Please let us know about your intend to
assist bij adding your name to the list
at the Bitlair page mentioned below or
with an e-mail to elborro at bitlair dot
nl.<br>
<br>
WHY even page: <a href="https://wiki.why2025.org/Team:Info/sweatshop-2025-05-15" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://wiki.why2025.org/Team:Info/sweatshop-2025-05-15</a><br>
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Bitlair event page: <a href="https://bitlair.nl/Events/2025-05-15_WHY2025_sweatshop" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://bitlair.nl/Events/2025-05-15_WHY2025_sweatshop</a><br>
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Vriendelijke groeten/Kind regards, Rob.<br>
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