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<p>Hi Netsmurf,</p>
<p>Thanks for you detailed thoughts! <br>
I'll reply inline to hopefully keep things somewhat sorted.</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/14/25 11:11 PM, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jeroen@ifcat.org">jeroen@ifcat.org</a>
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I think a talk is very needed as I do understand most but "road through the rice fields" is a bit of a mistery.. and a drawing of some items like parking.</pre>
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The field with the 'hills' may need a 'road' with plastic plates
going from east to west so that it doesn't completely turn into a
mud pit. This is only necessary if the rain is very bad.<br>
For parking, Team:Parking is responsible for the drawing and I have
just proxied the number I got from konmei.
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<pre wrap="" class="moz-quote-pre">The link to the file with the driving plates is here : <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1R0B0l73yNMc54m91QgpUehwEKdIlbQNfSrg0ICLkaKw/edit?usp=sharing">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1R0B0l73yNMc54m91QgpUehwEKdIlbQNfSrg0ICLkaKw/edit?usp=sharing</a> Request access for editing for one or 2 team members.</pre>
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Done.
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<pre wrap="" class="moz-quote-pre">6) Roads to track 2,3,6 done see the google.xls I have updated that based on you length, do you want these to be permanent or temporary ?</pre>
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We don't know how expensive and impractical it is to have them
moved. Do you know?
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<pre wrap="" class="moz-quote-pre">Plates under portacabins is really not needed we have never done that before and it is a waste of plates as only the few corners that are resting on the can use some support but that is for the cabin supplier to take care of.
Alternatively we need some very small steel plates like 1x1m for weight distribution on each contact point, but to pave the whole area underneath is not needed.</pre>
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Ah, I had different information here. If you are certain we don't
need these we can remove them.
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<pre wrap="" class="moz-quote-pre">On none of our events, including the German and UK ones have we ever built camper roads I estimate that the 1920m2 you request will cost us about 8-10K,extra, do you have a drawing of that plan ?
We probably need to minimize that a bit as the area's you have now selected for campers are mostly very hard ground except for the entry points to those fields.</pre>
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I get that we need to minimize that, but I don't really think we
have a choice. I do have exact plans for where we need these
rijplaten. Since we were urged to add more camper spaces, some of
them are in areas that are hard to reach.<br>
I have put you a drawing of the rijplaten and the camperspots. Note
that the camper spots are not final because we need to move stuff
for permit reasons, but the general areas are correct and the moving
stuff will only cost us more plates.<br>
In this drawing the rijplaten are still twice, the calcuation you
have is only for roads that are one wide.<br>
<img src="cid:part1.CcXtdzzE.V3Q9beDw@why2025.org" alt="">
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<pre wrap="" class="moz-quote-pre">Parking is in line with what we had in 2017 and 2022 in terms of m2 but do you have a detailed drawing of their layout ?</pre>
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Please ask Team:Parking for that, they also gave us that number.
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<pre wrap="" class="moz-quote-pre">LSD do you have a drawing of the layout ?</pre>
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Yes, manduca made one (ignore the routing and just look at the
plates):<br>
<img src="cid:part2.ATn0lQhG.B5zKLADV@why2025.org" alt="">
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<pre wrap="" class="moz-quote-pre">Road to the NOC Why would we need a gator road to the NOC ? Has that been requested by the team ?</pre>
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I see that the name is confusing. The road is not in particular for
NOC, but if you look at the heaven layout you notice that a lot of
traffic will go from the wagenweg towards NOC and the other orga
structures there. Because the field will not be in the best state to
begin with, we think it is important to have plates there so we
don't have to swim.
<p>I hope this already gives you an idea.<br>
Best,<br>
Gina</p>
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