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<p>Hi Jeroen,</p>
<p>Next week I am on business travel, so I unfortunately can't.<br>
Would Monday the 19th in the evening work for you? I would also
like to discuss how the handover from Liquicity to us will work
out timing-wise.</p>
<p>I will update the spreadsheet as soon as I can find the time.</p>
<p>Best,<br>
Gina</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"
style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">We
really need to schedule some time to discus with a few of
your terrain team members and Henry and me about where we
will place driving plates and make the exact numbers final.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"
style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">It would
also really help if you can update the <a
href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1R0B0l73yNMc54m91QgpUehwEKdIlbQNfSrg0ICLkaKw/edit?gid=1879217106#gid=1879217106"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1R0B0l73yNMc54m91QgpUehwEKdIlbQNfSrg0ICLkaKw/edit?gid=1879217106#gid=1879217106</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"
style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">With all
the items where you want driving plates and make estimates
of the cost associated with each item, so we can discuss
each item and decide whether there is budget for this or
not.<br>
<br>
When can we schedule 2 hours to do this next week Thursday
the 15<sup>th</sup> ?<br>
<br>
Jeroen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jeroen@ifcat.org">jeroen@ifcat.org</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jeroen@ifcat.org"><jeroen@ifcat.org></a> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> woensdag 23 april 2025 01:45<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Gina Muuss' <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gina@why2025.org"><gina@why2025.org></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> '<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:terrain@lists.why2025.org">terrain@lists.why2025.org</a>'
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:terrain@lists.why2025.org"><terrain@lists.why2025.org></a>; 'Boekenwuurm'
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:boekenwuurm@ifcat.org"><boekenwuurm@ifcat.org></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Rijplatten<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"
style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Gina and
team,<br>
<br>
I finally have a first quote and sizes of driving plates
from LQF so we can see what is available and we can start
estimating the cost for everyone.<br>
<br>
I made a new tab in the XLS, lets see where that brings us.<br>
<br>
Jeroen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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href="mailto:jeroen@ifcat.org" moz-do-not-send="true"
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<<a href="mailto:jeroen@ifcat.org"
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<b>Sent:</b> zaterdag 19 april 2025 21:47<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Gina Muuss' <<a
href="mailto:gina@why2025.org" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">gina@why2025.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> '<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:terrain@lists.why2025.org">terrain@lists.why2025.org</a>' <<a
href="mailto:terrain@lists.why2025.org"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">terrain@lists.why2025.org</a>>;
'Boekenwuurm' <<a href="mailto:boekenwuurm@ifcat.org"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">boekenwuurm@ifcat.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Rijplatten<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">Gina,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">Thank you for your
extensive reply.<br>
See inline comments.<br>
<br>
Jeroen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Gina Muuss <<a href="mailto:gina@why2025.org"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">gina@why2025.org</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> woensdag 16 april 2025 23:33<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:jeroen@ifcat.org"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">jeroen@ifcat.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:terrain@lists.why2025.org"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">terrain@lists.why2025.org</a>;
'Boekenwuurm' <<a href="mailto:boekenwuurm@ifcat.org"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">boekenwuurm@ifcat.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Rijplatten<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>Hi Netsmurf,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Thanks for you detailed thoughts! <br>
I'll reply inline to hopefully keep things somewhat sorted.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<pre>I think a talk is very needed as I do understand most but "road through the rice fields" is a bit of a mistery.. and a drawing of some items like parking.<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
lang="EN-US">GM:</span>The field with the 'hills' may need a
'road' with plastic plates going from east to west so that it
doesn't completely turn into a mud pit. This is only necessary
if the rain is very bad.<br>
<span lang="EN-US">JVV: Unfortunately “The field with the
Hills’ is not specific enough, I have an idea based on this
can you provide a map location.<br>
<br>
GM:</span>For parking, Team:Parking is responsible for the
drawing and I have just proxied the number I got from konmei.
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JVV:OK I Will Ask Konmei.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<pre>The link to the file with the driving plates is here : <a
href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1R0B0l73yNMc54m91QgpUehwEKdIlbQNfSrg0ICLkaKw/edit?usp=sharing"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1R0B0l73yNMc54m91QgpUehwEKdIlbQNfSrg0ICLkaKw/edit?usp=sharing</a> Request access for editing for one or 2 team members.<o:p></o:p></pre>
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lang="EN-US">GM:</span>Done. <span lang="EN-US"><br>
JVV:And Access Granted </span><span lang="EN-US"
style="font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif">😊</span><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<pre>6) Roads to track 2,3,6 done see the google.xls I have updated that based on you length, do you want these to be permanent or temporary ?<o:p></o:p></pre>
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lang="EN-US">GM:</span>We don't know how expensive and
impractical it is to have them moved. Do you know? <span
lang="EN-US"><br>
JVV:Not Yet but I can ask, it is also an esthetics thing if
you want them there during the event….<br>
JVV:Although putting them back at the end is also a hassle
if there are still campers.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<pre>Plates under portacabins is really not needed we have never done that before and it is a waste of plates as only the few corners that are resting on the can use some support but that is for the cabin supplier to take care of.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Alternatively we need some very small steel plates like 1x1m for weight distribution on each contact point, but to pave the whole area underneath is not needed.<o:p></o:p></pre>
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lang="EN-US">GM:</span>Ah, I had different information here.
If you are certain we don't need these we can remove them. <span
lang="EN-US"><br>
JVV:Was discussed in PL and Henry will discuss this with the
portacabin supplier.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<pre>On none of our events, including the German and UK ones have we ever built camper roads I estimate that the 1920m2 you request will cost us about 8-10K,extra, do you have a drawing of that plan ?<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>We probably need to minimize that a bit as the area's you have now selected for campers are mostly very hard ground except for the entry points to those fields.<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">GM:</span>I get that we
need to minimize that, but I don't really think we have a
choice. I do have exact plans for where we need these
rijplaten. Since we were urged to add more camper spaces, some
of them are in areas that are hard to reach.<br>
<span lang="EN-US">GM:</span>I have put you a drawing of the
rijplaten and the camperspots. Note that the camper spots are
not final because we need to move stuff for permit reasons,
but the general areas are correct and the moving stuff will
only cost us more plates.<br>
<span lang="EN-US">GM:</span>In this drawing the rijplaten are
still twice, the calcuation you have is only for roads that
are one wide.<span lang="EN-US"><br>
JVV:Was discussed in PL as well a bit, we only need plates
where the campers enter the field and have to make sharp
turns><br>
JVV:That the field gets damaged is not really an issue,
after Liquicity Festival2025 and WHY2025 back to back
equalizing the fields and re-sowing them is almost
unavoidable and a lot cheaper than plates.<br>
JVV:I will look at the field on Monday and walk these routes
to see what is needed. A lot is going to depend on the
weather in the coming 3 months if it stays like this there
are no issues at all.<br>
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<pre>Parking is in line with what we had in 2017 and 2022 in terms of m2 but do you have a detailed drawing of their layout ?<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">GM:</span>Please ask
Team:Parking for that, they also gave us that number. <span
lang="EN-US"><br>
JVV:Done<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<pre>LSD do you have a drawing of the layout ?<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">GM:</span>Yes, manduca
made one (ignore the routing and just look at the plates):<span
lang="EN-US"><br>
JVV:Will look at that on Monday as well but it seems
reasonable.</span><br>
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<pre>Road to the NOC Why would we need a gator road to the NOC ? Has that been requested by the team ?<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">GM:</span>I see that the
name is confusing. The road is not in particular for NOC, but
if you look at the heaven layout you notice that a lot of
traffic will go from the wagenweg towards NOC and the other
orga structures there. <span lang="EN-US"><br>
GM:</span>Because the field will not be in the best state to
begin with, we think it is important to have plates there so
we don't have to swim. <span lang="EN-US"><br>
JVV:That is an assumption based on last years extremely wet
period right before LQF and the field day. We probably will
have to wait and see until few weeks before event and
decide.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">GM:</span>I hope this already gives you an
idea.<span lang="EN-US"><br>
JVV: Yeah pretty much.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Best,<br>
Gina<o:p></o:p></p>
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