[mch2021-orga] sustainability in the camp (Ultratux techinc)

Patrice Riemens patrice at xs4all.nl
Wed Jun 10 16:43:10 CEST 2020


Aloha,

> If we want to become sustainable, the answer cannot lie in only getting
> green power. The answer must also include lowering our power demands
> ourselves. That may mean no longer welcoming gaming rigs, mining rigs,
> pizza ovens, cooking gear, and a lot of things that we now use.
> But if we as a community are not willing, or able, to make such tough
> choices we can't become 100% sustainable. No field of solar panels or
> wind turbines can economically be built up and torn down for 5 days, 
> the
> math just doesn't work. :(

Maybe we should look even further (warning: brick to thrown in the 
froggs' pond): Maybe the whole concept of big gathering like OHM SHA MCH 
is simply no longer sustainable? May be we should seriously reflect why 
we want to have such large gatherings (Rop used to say "to attract and 
'convert' the younger generation to good hacking practices -owtte). If 
we can come to a good reason for doing it, in this changed world - well 
OK then. But otherwise maybe give it a solemn quit?
Cheerio, and sorry to be the proverbial party pooper ... ;-)
p+7D!  (back in my postcard!)

PS and a more down to earth suggestion: would it be an idea totry not to 
copy all the previous message, or even worse: all the previous messageS 
in yr reply to the list ... makes the digest such a long document ...



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