[why2025-terrain] Fwd: Foodcourt Layout

Thu May 8 21:56:04 CEST 2025

Hi Sem,

Awesome! We will put the design in the map once we get to it. (This may 
take some time though).

One more questions popped up: Do you have any idea about the build-up 
and tear-down schedule for the food court yet? We would like to know to 
make sure that the plans are compatible.

Best,
Gina

On 5/6/25 2:48 PM, justSem wrote:
> Hi Gina, Team:Terrain,
>
> Thanks for the updated terrain layout and the much appreciated (and 
> massive) increase in space. We've conferred with the Foodcourt 
> supplier and they were actually really happy with your suggestion. If 
> this is suitable for you, I would like to make this design final.
>
> We are still working on the layout for plates for the trucks to sit 
> on, there is a debate going on to whether this should be metal or 
> composite plates. I didn't fully recall whether that was something 
> Team:Terrain handles, but I'll get that cleared up in the meet tomorrow.
>
> Are there any other questions from the side of Team:terrain I should 
> take care of?
>
> Groeten,
> Sem (justSem)
>
> On Thursday, 17 April 2025 at 06:48, k4t0 at why2025.org 
> <k4t0 at why2025.org> wrote:
>> Hi Sem en Marieke,
>> Ik heb deze bekeken.
>> Wat vinden jullie?
>> Het eerste voorstel lijkt mij wel mooi. Het tweede past niet met de bar.
>> Ik wist niet dat er niets achter de info tent zou komen? Als er 
>> geen/weinig hekken zijn lijkt me dit een mooie open setting.
>> Zal ik het eerste plaatje met Bruisend delen?
>> Groet Kato
>>
>> -------- Doorgestuurd bericht -------
>>
>> Van: "Gina Muuss" <gina at why2025.org 
>> <mailto:gina at why2025.org?to=%22Gina%20Muuss%22%20%3Cgina%40why2025.org%3E>>Naar: 
>> k4t0 at why2025.orgCC: terrain at lists.why2025.orgVerzonden: 10 april 2025 
>> om 20:49Onderwerp: Foodcourt Layout
>>
>> Dear K4T0, dear Team:Foodcourt,
>>
>> It was lovely to meet you on Saturday and I hope you are doing well! 
>> Following our discussion, Team:Terrain has had a lengthy discussion 
>> about the proposed food court layout and your question about moving 
>> the bar further to the south. We have some worries about the user 
>> interactions that your layout invites and how it integrates with our 
>> concept. In particular, we are worried about two things: For our camp 
>> the visitors are walking through the field randomly looking at 
>> whatever they come across, villages, workshops, art, etc. and this is 
>> desirable behavior. After all, everyone brings cool stuff, and we 
>> want visitors to engage with each other. We would like the food court 
>> to fit into this usage of the terrain, so we want to make it natural 
>> and almost obvious to walk through the food court randomly. Visitors 
>> naturally discover what foods exist and that the food court is a nice 
>> place to be. With the current layout visitors coming to the court 
>> have to pass between the food trucks approaching from behind which 
>> will always feel 'like your doing it wrong'. Generally, when placing 
>> things on the terrain we try to spread things out and make use of 
>> natural terrain features as much as possible. This way the place 
>> feels more coherent and less 'different pieces stuck together with 
>> sticky tape'. To us, the current design feels like a block within the 
>> terrain that does not connect with the surrounding parts. While we 
>> appreciate the fact that the supplier has an interest in creating a 
>> cohesive environment for their food trucks, we think that with the 
>> current location this layout would negatively impact the flow of the 
>> place. We also have a technical issue with the design you showed us: 
>> It takes up about half of the space where the info tent was supposed 
>> to be. We can move it slightly but not far enough to make the exact 
>> thing you proposed work. This is a technical issue though and for our 
>> proposals info will also be moved slightly. We have two proposals for 
>> what we think would be a layout that fits better with the feel of the 
>> camp. Our goal with this is to make use of natural barriers in the 
>> terrain and make the food court an obvious thing to walk through. 
>> Both of our proposals also use more space than was originally 
>> designated for the food court to make it feel more open. The first 
>> proposal (orange) looks like this: [(proposal1.jpg)] This makes use 
>> of the back info and the hill as pre-existing barriers for the back 
>> sides of the trucks while still keeping them as close together as 
>> before. The funnel shape also makes it natural to walk into from all 
>> sides. The star tent can also move further north or a bit south, if 
>> that is more convenient. If we go for this option then it might still 
>> make sense to move the bar south a little, that would be up to you. 
>> Our second option (pink) pulls the trucks apart a bit more: 
>> [(proposal2.jpg)] This layout uses the hill at the rice fields as a 
>> barrier instead of info. That way we still allow info to be open from 
>> any side and integrate the bar more into the food court. The position 
>> of the star tent here is even more fluid and can move sensibly on the 
>> grass it is currently on. A hybrid of orange and pink not putting 
>> anything next to the hill is also definitely possible. We just 
>> haven't drawn that yet as we don't know all the design considerations 
>> that you are working with. Please let us know what you think! Kind 
>> Regards, Team:Terrain
>
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