[why2025-terrain] Fwd: Foodcourt Layout

Sat Jun 14 14:06:03 CEST 2025

Hi Sem and Kato,

I have put the layout of the foodcourt on the map

I have put them in the order that they appear on the wiki page, I assume 
you have an opinion about this, that I will hear soon.

Kind regards,
Rox

On 08-05-2025 22:15, justSem via Terrain wrote:
>
> Hi Gina,
>
> Thanks!
> I’ll forward your question to our supplier and I’ll let you know once 
> they get back to us.
>
> Best regards,
> Sem
>
>
> On Thu, May 8, 2025 at 21:56, Gina Muuss <gina at why2025.org <mailto:On 
> Thu, May 8, 2025 at 21:56, Gina Muuss <<a href=>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Sem,
>>
>> Awesome! We will put the design in the map once we get to it. (This 
>> may take some time though).
>>
>> One more questions popped up: Do you have any idea about the build-up 
>> and tear-down schedule for the food court yet? We would like to know 
>> to make sure that the plans are compatible.
>>
>> Best,
>> Gina
>>
>> On 5/6/25 2:48 PM, justSem wrote:
>>> Hi Gina, Team:Terrain,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the updated terrain layout and the much appreciated (and 
>>> massive) increase in space. We've conferred with the Foodcourt 
>>> supplier and they were actually really happy with your suggestion. 
>>> If this is suitable for you, I would like to make this design final.
>>>
>>> We are still working on the layout for plates for the trucks to sit 
>>> on, there is a debate going on to whether this should be metal or 
>>> composite plates. I didn't fully recall whether that was something 
>>> Team:Terrain handles, but I'll get that cleared up in the meet 
>>> tomorrow.
>>>
>>> Are there any other questions from the side of Team:terrain I should 
>>> take care of?
>>>
>>> Groeten,
>>> Sem (justSem)
>>>
>>> On Thursday, 17 April 2025 at 06:48, k4t0 at why2025.org 
>>> <k4t0 at why2025.org> wrote:
>>>> Hi Sem en Marieke,
>>>> Ik heb deze bekeken.
>>>> Wat vinden jullie?
>>>> Het eerste voorstel lijkt mij wel mooi. Het tweede past niet met de 
>>>> bar.
>>>> Ik wist niet dat er niets achter de info tent zou komen? Als er 
>>>> geen/weinig hekken zijn lijkt me dit een mooie open setting.
>>>> Zal ik het eerste plaatje met Bruisend delen?
>>>> Groet Kato
>>>>
>>>> -------- Doorgestuurd bericht -------
>>>>
>>>> Van: "Gina Muuss" < gina at why2025.org 
>>>> <mailto:gina at why2025.org?to=%22Gina%20Muuss%22%20%3Cgina%40why2025.org%3E>>Naar: 
>>>> k4t0 at why2025.orgCC: terrain at lists.why2025.orgVerzonden: 10 april 
>>>> 2025 om 20:49Onderwerp: Foodcourt Layout
>>>>
>>>> Dear K4T0, dear Team:Foodcourt,
>>>>
>>>> It was lovely to meet you on Saturday and I hope you are doing 
>>>> well! Following our discussion, Team:Terrain has had a lengthy 
>>>> discussion about the proposed food court layout and your question 
>>>> about moving the bar further to the south. We have some worries 
>>>> about the user interactions that your layout invites and how it 
>>>> integrates with our concept. In particular, we are worried about 
>>>> two things: For our camp the visitors are walking through the field 
>>>> randomly looking at whatever they come across, villages, workshops, 
>>>> art, etc. and this is desirable behavior. After all, everyone 
>>>> brings cool stuff, and we want visitors to engage with each other. 
>>>> We would like the food court to fit into this usage of the terrain, 
>>>> so we want to make it natural and almost obvious to walk through 
>>>> the food court randomly. Visitors naturally discover what foods 
>>>> exist and that the food court is a nice place to be. With the 
>>>> current layout visitors coming to the court have to pass between 
>>>> the food trucks approaching from behind which will always feel 
>>>> 'like your doing it wrong'. Generally, when placing things on the 
>>>> terrain we try to spread things out and make use of natural terrain 
>>>> features as much as possible. This way the place feels more 
>>>> coherent and less 'different pieces stuck together with sticky 
>>>> tape'. To us, the current design feels like a block within the 
>>>> terrain that does not connect with the surrounding parts. While we 
>>>> appreciate the fact that the supplier has an interest in creating a 
>>>> cohesive environment for their food trucks, we think that with the 
>>>> current location this layout would negatively impact the flow of 
>>>> the place. We also have a technical issue with the design you 
>>>> showed us: It takes up about half of the space where the info tent 
>>>> was supposed to be. We can move it slightly but not far enough to 
>>>> make the exact thing you proposed work. This is a technical issue 
>>>> though and for our proposals info will also be moved slightly. We 
>>>> have two proposals for what we think would be a layout that fits 
>>>> better with the feel of the camp. Our goal with this is to make use 
>>>> of natural barriers in the terrain and make the food court an 
>>>> obvious thing to walk through. Both of our proposals also use more 
>>>> space than was originally designated for the food court to make it 
>>>> feel more open. The first proposal (orange) looks like this: 
>>>> [(proposal1.jpg)] This makes use of the back info and the hill as 
>>>> pre-existing barriers for the back sides of the trucks while still 
>>>> keeping them as close together as before. The funnel shape also 
>>>> makes it natural to walk into from all sides. The star tent can 
>>>> also move further north or a bit south, if that is more convenient. 
>>>> If we go for this option then it might still make sense to move the 
>>>> bar south a little, that would be up to you. Our second option 
>>>> (pink) pulls the trucks apart a bit more: [(proposal2.jpg)] This 
>>>> layout uses the hill at the rice fields as a barrier instead of 
>>>> info. That way we still allow info to be open from any side and 
>>>> integrate the bar more into the food court. The position of the 
>>>> star tent here is even more fluid and can move sensibly on the 
>>>> grass it is currently on. A hybrid of orange and pink not putting 
>>>> anything next to the hill is also definitely possible. We just 
>>>> haven't drawn that yet as we don't know all the design 
>>>> considerations that you are working with. Please let us know what 
>>>> you think! Kind Regards, Team:Terrain
>>>
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