[why2025-terrain] Backstage for supermarket.

Rox why2025 at rox.gay
Tue May 20 00:09:43 CEST 2025


Hi Jeroen,

This was discussed by team:terrain during tonight's meeting, and was 
discussed between you and Gina earlier already

the following is the current plan:

In essence the supermarket is over the tree stumps which was not a 
possibility I was aware was available to us

Kind regards,
Rox


On 19-05-2025 19:23, Rox wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I did some drawing on the map to see where the supermarket+backstage 
> could fit
>
> The supermarket is yellow and 20x10m, the red line is the backstage of 
> 15x10m
>
> A: put the supermarket north of tree stumps on the parking lot
>     access over the pavement will be difficult because of the toilet 
> and showers, and there is a ditch between the pavement of the parking 
> lot and the Groetpad
>     This also overlaps a "GEN+BATT" from team:NUTS
>
> B: put all of this south of the tree stumps
>     This completely blocks the dams to the red fields
>
> C: Backyard east of the supermarket
>     This leaves ~7.5m between the supermarket and the sloped section. 
> supermarket might be able to be put closer to the Groetpad to make 
> this larger, also part of the dam can be used
>     This does block one dam to the red fields and the gravel to the 
> other dam.
>     Campers will probably be able to go over the grass.
>
> D: Take C but swap supermarket and backstage.
>     This way the gravel can be kept clear
>     might be a very tight fit
>
> E: Supermarket on camper spaces
>     doesn't block any paths
>     costs 4 camper spaces
>
>
> Three suggetsions for the location of the supermarket and backstage
>
> Suggestions D and E
>
>
> Photo of the treestumps: https://cloud.ifcat.org/index.php/f/177700
> Photo showing the parking lot with some of the obstacles 
> https://cloud.ifcat.org/index.php/f/177631
>
>
> Kind regards,
> Rox
>
>
> On 08-05-2025 22:11, Gina Muuss via Terrain wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jeroen,
>>
>> The problem is as follows: Between the pavement and the supermarket 
>> are some tree stumps that are a) in the way and b) so rotten they 
>> cannot be moved. This means that if we place something north of the 
>> supermarket that is supposed to be connected then we need to move the 
>> supermarkt south, potentially impacting the road there. Do you see 
>> what I am trying to say?
>>
>> Best,
>> Gina
>>
>>
>> On 5/8/25 10:09 PM, jeroen at ifcat.org wrote:
>>>
>>> Gina,
>>>
>>> If campers turn north of the supermarket where would they go there 
>>> are no camper spots there only toilets and showers ?
>>>
>>> Jeroen
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:*Gina Muuss <gina at why2025.org>
>>> *Sent:* donderdag 8 mei 2025 22:06
>>> *To:* jeroen at ifcat.org
>>> *Cc:* terrain at lists.why2025.org
>>> *Subject:* Re: Backstage for supermarket.
>>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> North seems more reasonable, but I would have to go with a measuring 
>>> tape and see that the turn for all the campers does not get to 
>>> tight. Is this something that needs to be set in stone, or can we 
>>> plan north and then deviate in case it doesn't fit once we get there?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Gina
>>>
>>> On 5/8/25 9:59 PM, jeroen at ifcat.org wrote:
>>>
>>>     Gina,
>>>
>>>     On the east that is already a narrow strip and I expect part of
>>>     that to slope down towards the canal.
>>>
>>>
>>>     It can also be on the north ?
>>>
>>>     In that fenced off area we will place :
>>>
>>>      1. 1 Camper for the owner, he wants to guard his stuff during
>>>         the night.
>>>      2. A truck for Transport and storage
>>>      3. 4 wheeled transport containers
>>>      4. Waste containers
>>>
>>>     On the east they will probably place 2-3 sleeping tents for
>>>     their personnel also to semi guard the stuff inside.
>>>
>>>     Jeroen
>>>
>>>     *From:*Gina Muuss <gina at why2025.org> <mailto:gina at why2025.org>
>>>     *Sent:* donderdag 8 mei 2025 21:40
>>>     *To:* jeroen at ifcat.org <mailto:jeroen at ifcat.org>
>>>     *Cc:* terrain at lists.why2025.org <mailto:terrain at lists.why2025.org>
>>>     *Subject:* Re: Backstage for supermarket.
>>>
>>>     Hi Jeroen,
>>>
>>>     Having a backstage is not a problem, I disagree with the
>>>     placement on the south side though.
>>>     There will be foot-traffic coming from this side.
>>>     Is there a specific reason the fence can't be towards the canal
>>>     on the east?
>>>
>>>     Best,
>>>     Gina
>>>
>>>     On 5/7/25 9:45 PM, jeroen at ifcat.org wrote:
>>>
>>>         Team terrain,
>>>
>>>         For the supermarket can you please add a fenced off 10x15m
>>>         backstage for the supermarket ?
>>>         I think we should do that on the short south side of the
>>>         current placement.
>>>
>>>
>>>         Could you please advise me how we reserve fencing for that ?
>>>         Could you provide the fencing ?
>>>
>>>
>>>         Jeroen
>>>
>>
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