[why2025-terrain] Backstage for supermarket.

[Rox]

Hi all,

I did some drawing on the map to see where the supermarket+backstage 
could fit

The supermarket is yellow and 20x10m, the red line is the backstage of 
15x10m

A: put the supermarket north of tree stumps on the parking lot
     access over the pavement will be difficult because of the toilet 
and showers, and there is a ditch between the pavement of the parking 
lot and the Groetpad
     This also overlaps a "GEN+BATT" from team:NUTS

B: put all of this south of the tree stumps
     This completely blocks the dams to the red fields

C: Backyard east of the supermarket
     This leaves ~7.5m between the supermarket and the sloped section. 
supermarket might be able to be put closer to the Groetpad to make this 
larger, also part of the dam can be used
     This does block one dam to the red fields and the gravel to the 
other dam.
     Campers will probably be able to go over the grass.

D: Take C but swap supermarket and backstage.
     This way the gravel can be kept clear
     might be a very tight fit

E: Supermarket on camper spaces
     doesn't block any paths
     costs 4 camper spaces


Three suggetsions for the location of the supermarket and backstage

Suggestions D and E


Photo of the treestumps: https://cloud.ifcat.org/index.php/f/177700
Photo showing the parking lot with some of the obstacles 
https://cloud.ifcat.org/index.php/f/177631


Kind regards,
Rox


On 08-05-2025 22:11, Gina Muuss via Terrain wrote:
>
> Hi Jeroen,
>
> The problem is as follows: Between the pavement and the supermarket 
> are some tree stumps that are a) in the way and b) so rotten they 
> cannot be moved. This means that if we place something north of the 
> supermarket that is supposed to be connected then we need to move the 
> supermarkt south, potentially impacting the road there. Do you see 
> what I am trying to say?
>
> Best,
> Gina
>
>
> On 5/8/25 10:09 PM, jeroen at ifcat.org wrote:
>>
>> Gina,
>>
>> If campers turn north of the supermarket where would they go there 
>> are no camper spots there only toilets and showers ?
>>
>> Jeroen
>>
>>
>> *From:*Gina Muuss <gina at why2025.org>
>> *Sent:* donderdag 8 mei 2025 22:06
>> *To:* jeroen at ifcat.org
>> *Cc:* terrain at lists.why2025.org
>> *Subject:* Re: Backstage for supermarket.
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> North seems more reasonable, but I would have to go with a measuring 
>> tape and see that the turn for all the campers does not get to tight. 
>> Is this something that needs to be set in stone, or can we plan north 
>> and then deviate in case it doesn't fit once we get there?
>>
>> Best,
>> Gina
>>
>> On 5/8/25 9:59 PM, jeroen at ifcat.org wrote:
>>
>>     Gina,
>>
>>     On the east that is already a narrow strip and I expect part of
>>     that to slope down towards the canal.
>>
>>
>>     It can also be on the north ?
>>
>>     In that fenced off area we will place :
>>
>>      1. 1 Camper for the owner, he wants to guard his stuff during
>>         the night.
>>      2. A truck for Transport and storage
>>      3. 4 wheeled transport containers
>>      4. Waste containers
>>
>>     On the east they will probably place 2-3 sleeping tents for their
>>     personnel also to semi guard the stuff inside.
>>
>>     Jeroen
>>
>>     *From:*Gina Muuss <gina at why2025.org> <mailto:gina at why2025.org>
>>     *Sent:* donderdag 8 mei 2025 21:40
>>     *To:* jeroen at ifcat.org <mailto:jeroen at ifcat.org>
>>     *Cc:* terrain at lists.why2025.org <mailto:terrain at lists.why2025.org>
>>     *Subject:* Re: Backstage for supermarket.
>>
>>     Hi Jeroen,
>>
>>     Having a backstage is not a problem, I disagree with the
>>     placement on the south side though.
>>     There will be foot-traffic coming from this side.
>>     Is there a specific reason the fence can't be towards the canal
>>     on the east?
>>
>>     Best,
>>     Gina
>>
>>     On 5/7/25 9:45 PM, jeroen at ifcat.org wrote:
>>
>>         Team terrain,
>>
>>         For the supermarket can you please add a fenced off 10x15m
>>         backstage for the supermarket ?
>>         I think we should do that on the short south side of the
>>         current placement.
>>
>>
>>         Could you please advise me how we reserve fencing for that ?
>>         Could you provide the fencing ?
>>
>>
>>         Jeroen
>>
>
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