[mch2021-orga] sustainability in the camp

Kate Wolf dyshexic at gmail.com
Tue Jun 9 20:39:38 CEST 2020


Should we approaching Tesla Berlin (which should be open by next years
camp) for sponsorship of power? Given our community overlap with Tesla &
SpaceX and see if we can go to pure battery

Kate


On 09/06/2020 19:29, Lennart Peter de Vries wrote:
> At another event I am a part of (22.000 campers, 50.000+ visitors, I am
> working in telecom, not power) they changed the power supply system to
> use one big generator with a battery-unit for use in a place where we
> used to have 3 of 4 big generators.
> This was in use for all the lights and audio in the big tent and all the
> portacabins etc. and still it had no trouble powering the whole thing.
> 
> It is possible these days to rent those generator/battery combos.
> 
> Generators can run very inefficiently, and with these solutions the
> generator runs very efficiently for a while to charge the batteries and
> then is off until the batteries need charging again.
> 
> I am not going to throw around numbers/percentages, but I guess the
> powerteam knows these options, or I can put them in touch with the
> people at the other event for info-exchange.
> 
> Best regards,
> Wheeze_NL
> 
> Op di 9 jun. 2020 om 20:26 schreef Oscar Koeroo <okoeroo at gmail.com
> <mailto:okoeroo at gmail.com>>:
> 
>     Hi,
> 
>     Yes! These pre-charged green battery things where on my mind.
>     Capacity and specs are unknown to me. But a similar concept would be
>     cool too.
> 
> 
>     Oscar Koeroo
> 
> 
> 
>     > On 9 Jun 2020, at 19:45, Maarten Hendrix <maarten at hendrix.network>
>     wrote:
>     >
>     > Maybe it makes sense to check something like this
>     http://green-battery.nl/
>     >
>     > Kind regards
>     > Matje
>     >
>     > Sent with my iPhone
>     >
>     >> On Jun 9, 2020, at 19:37, Julius <julius at ifcat.org
>     <mailto:julius at ifcat.org>> wrote:
>     >>
>     >> 
>     >> To be honest, sometimes I think we are a bit spoiled with 32A
>     electricity + 100Gb networks on our camp, not many camp as luxurious
>     as us. But storing energy? Well, can always pump water from the pool
>     and store it in a large container somewhere high?
>     >>
>     >> On 9-6-2020 19:31, Claudia.Borges wrote:
>     >>> Would it be an idea to ask ppl in the camp to come up with ways
>     to store power or is this too far tetched?
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>> Julius schreef op 2020-06-09 18:55:
>     >>>
>     >>>> Hi Oscar,
>     >>>>
>     >>>> The altpwr team had some solar panels on the field, however the
>     issue here is that when there is no sun, there is no power... And
>     especially with these powerhungry hackers they will drain the
>     batteries rather quickly. Also consider the environmental issues you
>     have when a battery starts leaking or gets left behind? Best
>     alternative would be mains power, less mess.
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Julius
>     >>>>
>     >>>> On 8-6-2020 20:59, Oscar Koeroo wrote:
>     >>>>> Hi,
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> Are the power 'battery' packs with solar cells being looked at
>     as options? These are quite large capacity units and have a zero
>     emission output (on the field).
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> Oscar Koeroo
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>>> On 8 Jun 2020, at 15:25, Elger Jonker <elger at ifcat.org
>     <mailto:elger at ifcat.org>> wrote:
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> Hi Claudia,
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> Great stuff!
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> Making a greener event is always a good thing and summary
>     like this is really helpful. Note that from a PL perspective we'd
>     opt all teams to consider green(er) options and see if those
>     feasible given difficulty, budget, availability etc.
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> Not in the list:
>     >>>>>> The biggest pollutant, power generators, is being
>     investigated by Benadski. There are serious (legal, organizationals)
>     hurdles to take, but the goal is to use mains power instead.
>     >>>>>> Using electric golf carts instead of diesel gators.
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> I personally like the information bit.
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> Regards,
>     >>>>>> Elger / Stitch
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>>> On Jun 8, 2020, at 14:51, Claudia.Borges
>     <claudia.borges at xs4all.nl <mailto:claudia.borges at xs4all.nl>> wrote:
>     >>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>> Hello sweethearts,
>     >>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>> I had started another project long ago, this one about
>     making the camp sustainable.  I would like to share it to see if
>     there is any interest. It is a list of sustainable ideas for the
>     camp. Because it is not clear to me who and how decisions are made,
>     I am not sure if I will pursue this any further or will put this
>     wiki down.
>     >>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>> https://sha2021.eu/index.php/Main_Page
>     >>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>> Cheers,
>     >>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>> Claudia
>     >>>>>>>
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