[why2025-terrain] Rijplatten

[Gina Muuss]

Hi Netsmurf,

Thanks for you detailed thoughts!
I'll reply inline to hopefully keep things somewhat sorted.

On 4/14/25 11:11 PM, jeroen at ifcat.org wrote:
> I think a talk is very needed as I do understand most but "road through the rice fields" is a bit of a mistery.. and a drawing of some items like parking.
The field with the 'hills' may need a 'road' with plastic plates going 
from east to west so that it doesn't completely turn into a mud pit. 
This is only necessary if the rain is very bad.
For parking, Team:Parking is responsible for the drawing and I have just 
proxied the number I got from konmei.
> The link to the file with the driving plates is here :https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1R0B0l73yNMc54m91QgpUehwEKdIlbQNfSrg0ICLkaKw/edit?usp=sharing Request access for editing for one or 2 team members.
Done.
> 6) Roads to track 2,3,6 done see the google.xls  I have updated that based on you length, do you want these to be permanent or temporary ?
We don't know how expensive and impractical it is to have them moved. Do 
you know?
> Plates under portacabins is really not needed we have never done that before and it is a waste of plates as only the few corners that are resting on the can use some support but that is for the cabin supplier to take care of.
> Alternatively we need some very small steel plates like 1x1m for weight distribution on each contact point, but to pave the whole area underneath is not needed.
Ah, I had different information here. If you are certain we don't need 
these we can remove them.
> On none of our events, including the German and UK ones have we ever built camper roads I estimate that the 1920m2 you request will cost us about 8-10K,extra, do you have a drawing of that plan ?
> We probably need to minimize that a bit as the area's you have now selected for campers are mostly very hard ground except for the entry points to those fields.
I get that we need to minimize that, but I don't really think we have a 
choice. I do have exact plans for where we need these rijplaten. Since 
we were urged to add more camper spaces, some of them are in areas that 
are hard to reach.
I have put you a drawing of the rijplaten and the camperspots. Note that 
the camper spots are not final because we need to move stuff for permit 
reasons, but the general areas are correct and the moving stuff will 
only cost us more plates.
In this drawing the rijplaten are still twice, the calcuation you have 
is only for roads that are one wide.
> Parking is in line with what we had in 2017 and 2022 in terms of m2 but do you have a detailed drawing of their layout ?
Please ask Team:Parking for that, they also gave us that number.
> LSD do you have a drawing of the layout ?
Yes, manduca made one (ignore the routing and just look at the plates):
> Road to the NOC Why would we need a gator road to the NOC ? Has that been requested by the team ?
I see that the name is confusing. The road is not in particular for NOC, 
but if you look at the heaven layout you notice that a lot of traffic 
will go from the wagenweg towards NOC and the other orga structures 
there. Because the field will not be in the best state to begin with, we 
think it is important to have plates there so we don't have to swim.

I hope this already gives you an idea.
Best,
Gina


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